So, I was taking graphic design for all the wrong reasons, really seeing no purpose to it. And also, my painting teacher suggested that I do that so I don’t become poor. I was a painter and I took graphic design essentially to learn how to be more organized. And how I got to do that was Richard was a visiting professor in my senior design class.Īnd I was taking graphic design classes, but I had very… I was just… I hated it. And then out of school, I got to work with Richard Saul Wurman. And so, this interconnection between art and technology was there at the very beginning, even though I didn’t realize it. I learned how to do Fortran don’t ask me why decided to do that. I was majored in art, but I took an engineering class. But at Cooper, you could take an art class. They just seemed like very discreet disciplines. It was founded in the 1800s by Peter Cooper.Īnd when I went to art school, I had no understanding of the interrelationship between art, architecture, and engineering. One of the beautiful things about Cooper Union as an art school was it was art, engineering, and architecture. Maria: I started out as a fine artist, went to art school. And you know, Richard coined the phrase “information architects” back in the day. I was sitting my twenties when I was featured in that book. Jorge: I think that the first time that I became aware of you, I believe it was in the Information Architects book. Great, then you got two data points in a sea of many years of data points. Jorge: And I also know that at one point you worked with Richard Saul Wurman. One was that you founded a design agency or consultancy called Hot Studio. And I knew two things about you before I met you. I’ll tell you what I know, because we’ve known each other, but my awareness of you proceeds my knowing you in person. I think there’s a lot of… There’s a big gap between those two. I considered myself a fine artist and now that I’m a woman in her fifties, I am a, a design leadership coach and consultant. So, I’ll go from one end, from being a child. Maria: Boy, that’s a good question because I feel like I keep changing and growing. So, for folks who might not know you, how do you describe what you do and what you’ve been doing your trajectory? Jorge: Well, I’m very excited that you’ve agreed to come on. I get a small commission for purchases made through these links. Some show notes may include Amazon affiliate links. Rise of the DEO: Leadership by Design by Maria Giudice and Christopher Ireland.The Second Mountain: The Quest for a Moral Life by David Brooks.The Speedball Textbook: A Comprehensive Guide to Pen and Brush Lettering by Joanne Fink.Information Architects by Richard Saul Wurman. In this conversation, Maria reveals how she found her purpose, and shares with us the exciting next stage of her career. After leaving Facebook, she served as VP of Design at Autodesk. Maria founded Hot Studio, a design consultancy that was acquired by Facebook in 2013.
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